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Devotionals    H3'ed 2/13/18

Jennifer Leclaire -- Christo-Feminism, Strawmen, and Michael Brown -- Oh My

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'Apparently not. It gets worse. He goes on to point out, "What does God have to say about this issue? He states in His Word, 'I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor" (1 Timothy 2:12-14 -- ESV). "Clearly then women are not permitted to teach in the Church, nor are they allowed to exercise authority over men in the Church." As Lee Grady so eloquently wrote, "Paul's first epistle to Timothy seems to limit women's roles in leadership (see 1 Tim. 2:12). Yet Paul also gushed with praise for the women who served with him as co-laborers--women such as Phoebe (Rom. 16:1-2), Junia (Rom. 16:7) and Priscilla, who helped lay foundations in the early church (see 1 Cor. 16:19). In Phil. 4:2-3, Paul expresses solidarity with two women leaders, Euodia and Syntyche. And he refers to other women who obviously led churches, such as Chloe (1 Cor. 1:11) and Nympha (Col. 4:15), and he does not try to silence or restrict them," Grady says. "Traditionalists who insist on barring women from leadership positions always refer to 1 Tim. 2:12 as an ironclad rule--yet they ignore the women who served with Paul. The obvious question is: Why did Paul tell Timothy to clamp down on the women in Ephesus when he allowed Priscilla to teach? The most sensible interpretation is that the Ephesian women were teaching heresy. They had no business teaching the Bible or leading the church, yet Paul encouraged faithful women."' -- Jennifer Leclaire


Mr. Grady was incorrect as I pointed out in an earlier devotional. These are stale and recycled Christo-feminist talking points that muddy the waters and outright misrepresent the truth. Junia(s) for example was a man! The verse even refers to him as my "kinsmen." Even if he was not the text merely says that he was well known among the apostles -- not that he was an apostle! Phoebe was a servant in the church. Chloe and Nympha were not leading churches. Euodia and Syntyche were arguing! Paul was trying to mediate it. Here are the verses:


I entreat Euodia and I entreat Syntyche to agree in the Lord. Yes, I ask you also, true companion, help these women, who have laboredside by side with me in the gospel together with Clement and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life. -- Philippians 4: 2-3 (ESV)


For it has been reported to me by Chloe's people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. -- 1Corinthians 1: 11 (ESV)


Give my greetings to the brothers at Laodicea, and to Nympha and the church in her house. -- Colossians 4: 15 (ESV)


Paul is not expressing solidarity with them! He is asking people to help them stop arguing! They were co-laborers according to the text. People associated with Chloe reported to Paul about quarreling over who they were supposed to follow. From that one simple fact the Christo-feminists conclude that Chloe ran a church! A church met at the house of Nympha in Laodicea and from that they promote Nympha to the pastor? Let us not lose sight beloved of why they jump through these absurd theological hoops. All to dismiss clear directive scriptures where God specifically spells out guidelines they simply disagree with. The most sensible interpretation is that we accept the direct instruction and stop playing guessing games with any slight mention of a woman in the parting greeting of another letter. Paul is writing a pastoral letter to Timothy and even though he will go pastor Ephesus, Paul makes no such mention of a problem generic only to Ephesus. In order to justify her own ministry and by using her own standards, Jennifer Leclaire now condemns all the Ephesian women to hell by calling them heretics. For shame Jennifer. For shame.


"If Paul didn't call them heretics, what gives you the boldness to attack women this way? Dr. Michael Brown, who has helped me as a father in the faith, even acknowledges that God can and has used some women in this capacity. He says the Scriptural pattern is along the lines of 1 Timothy 2:12-13 but still leaves room for God to use whomever he wants. After all, there is no Scripture sanctioning donkeys to prophesy or snakes to talk, but it happened. There are many leaders in Scripture and in the world who have made amazing impacts for the glory of God. Are they now rotting in hell? I don't think so." -- Jennifer Leclaire


No one is calling them heretics Jennifer, nice try. If you wish to co labor or be a servant in the kingdom I don't think anyone would bother you. It is interesting here that you admit that Dr. Brown is one of your fathers in the faith because he cannot bring himself to call anyone a heretic. He has defended Benny Hinn, Bill Johnson and even your sneaky squid. Moving past his unseemly comparison of women to donkeys and snakes, it is quite revealing that he tries to erect the same strawman as you. To avoid dealing with the false teaching he would rather argue that people are consigning them to hell. It is a slightly clever try but fairly transparent.


'"The problem with Miss LeClair's argument is that not one of these women (nor any others listed in Scripture) are teaching in the Church; nor are they exercising authority over men in the Church. They are not Elders or Bishops in the Church, nor are they listed as such anywhere in Scripture," Tuttle wrote. I'm sorry, help me understand where I said that?' -- Jennifer Leclaire


Sure thing Jennifer. Go back to the entire premise of this discussion. You wrote an article declaring John Piper was wrong for saying women should not teach or hold authority over men. Now, I do thank you for admitting that through all of your subterfuge and sleight of hand, that you have not actually made any such defense of your position. You are right -- you did not say that. The point is your premise said you believe it nonetheless.


"Tuttle writes, "God is very clear in His word regarding the positions that women may hold in the Church, and what positions they may not hold in the Church. Miss LeClair's attempt to dismiss God's Word (and by extension God Himself) as somehow wrong or old fashioned or whatever, by emphasizing her own personal belief as more authoritative than God and His Word is arrogantly blasphemous, and demonstrates her position as a false teacher. Repent, Miss LeClair. Repent and turn to the Lord God Almighty seeking His forgiveness." And there you go. You've accused me of blasphemy and being a false teacher. Even if I am wrong, do you truly believe Jesus is condemning me to hell over this point? Who made you a judge?I discern Tuttle does not know what spirit he's of (see Luke 9:55). We need to pray for this man and others like him. I won't return evil for evil by calling him a false teacher, but I know he's grieved the Holy Spirit and assume he has no idea, much like the religious Pharisees that persecuted Jesus. Praying for you, Mr. Tuttle." -- Jennifer Leclaire


God told us to judge. Try reading 1corinthians 5. Your strawman has been exposed already for what it is -- just a distraction you learned from your spiritual father Dr. Michael Brown. Then to top all of this off, you compare yourself to the persecuted Jesus. Wow. Because someone left what you perceived to be a nasty comment. Said you were going to hell"except he didn't actually say that. He just said what you are teaching and advocating is false and he is right. There are not enough sneaky squid spirits, angels of abundant harvest or Christo-feminist strawmen that can change that fact.

Reverend Anthony Wade -- February 13, 2018

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