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Marcus Rogers - Misunderstanding Tongues and Baptism

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"I never met anyone that wanted it that didn't get it eventually. Jude said to pray in the holy ghost. It's a promise all the way back to Joel. Paul said the spirit is making groanings and utterances on your behalf. When people run to Corinthians it is because they do not understand there is a difference between the gift of tongues and being filled with the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues" - Marcus Rogers

Ironically the person who sounds confused is Marcus Rogers. These are different topics splashed together to muddy the waters. Let us start with the first notion that he has never met anyone who has not "gotten it" who has not wanted it. C'mon Marcus. We all know plenty of people who are earnestly prayerful and still no "shabba dabba doo" in service. I knew a pastor who waited an alleged 24 years for this. Now, Jude is exhorting us to pray in the holy spirit. There is zero indication in these verses that Jude meant speaking like a toddler. Praying in the spirit means praying according to God and His word, which is His will. Now, Romans does speak to the Spirit interceding for us when we know not what to pray but this is our private prayer language, not the manifestation of gibberish tongues related to the baptism of the spirit. Marcus always comes to the same conclusion. If anyone has the temerity to disagree with him then they must not understand their bible. Right Marcus. Let us deal with this mysterious Corinthians verse he never actually identifies. I assume it is this:

For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body"Jews or Greeks, slaves or free"and all were made to drink of one Spirit. - 1Corinthians 12:12-13 (ESV)

At several points in this video, Marcus seems clearly frustrated that people who disagree with him revert back to these verses while he feels he has presented a plethora of verses. Nonsense. As we have already shown and will continue to do so, sputtering out verse fragments is not "proof." More importantly, what does Rogers do with these verses from Corinthians? Remember, Marcus' theology is that the baptism in the spirit is a separate occurrence in the life of a believer that can happen at any time. It could be immediate, or it could be 24 years. Yet these verses make it clear that ALL were baptized into one spirit, and ALL were made to drink of one spirit. There are not classes of Christians delineated by how "spiritual" they make themselves out to be. No beloved, we receive the indwelt Holy Spirit upon salvation. That is the power from God. That spirit leads us into all truth. There are two manifestations of other tongues. One is a gift of the spirit and is given out by the spirit as He wills. As this is for the edification of the church, these are other real tongues of this planet and not some mystical, gnostic babbling. The second is the secret prayer language.

"If you want the truth, pray about it. What am I telling you that's false. You can have that prayer language. In Mark it says these signs shall follow them that believe. Paul walked up to everybody and said have you received the holy ghost. People are going to get mad at this video but if you ask those people if they have spoken in tongues they will say no." - Marcus Rogers

Once again, Rogers throws some phrases and fragments together to try and make an unbiblical point. First of all, prayer is important but when someone is teaching you, we only need to open our bibles. The bible debunks false teachers like Marcus Rogers. He suggests prayer because we can convince ourselves anything through our wickedly deceitful hearts, but His word remains true and unchanged. Secondly here - everything Marcus is teaching is false on this subject! It divides the church and shipwrecks the faith. No one is denying you cannot have a prayer language, but we have NOTHING to do with that.

Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. - Romans 8:26-27 (ESV)

Does this, which is our secret prayer language verses, sound like we are in control at all? The Spirit INTERCEDES for us when we are at our end. The groanings too deep for words is either the spirit speaking through us or just for us. Either way, it is not something we have to wait for and will occur only when the spirit deems it is necessary! Beloved, Paul did not "walk up to everybody" and ask if they have received the Holy Ghost. He did that ONE time in Acts 19, that's it! The people who say no to Rogers' query about speaking in tongues are speaking to this horrible teaching. If the spirit has not willed tongues yet in either deep prayer or as a gift to edify the church, it is no wonder most would honestly answer no.

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